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Mikhail F. Bagaturov
Posted: January 31, 2010 06:24 am
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QUOTE (Imanol @ January 14, 2010 08:49 pm)
Müh ·> ....that makes you think that is a Vitalius sp.?

I suggest...
Because this spider looks like theraphosine and not ischnocoline.

Muh, can you post a picture closeup of the abdomen of the unid'ed species?


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Imanol
Posted: February 02, 2010 08:23 am
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QUOTE (Mikhail F. Bagaturov @ January 31, 2010 06:24 am)
QUOTE (Imanol @ January 14, 2010 08:49 pm)
Müh ·> ....that makes you think that is a Vitalius sp.?

I suggest...
Because this spider looks like theraphosine and not ischnocoline.


Yes Mikhail wink.gif agree but I meant exactly because he thinks it may belong to the genre Vitalius(characteristic) and not give for example Acanthoscurria so as say something rolleyes.gif









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Marcus Uth
Posted: February 02, 2010 01:35 pm
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Hey all,

it's been written before, but these ones are really fantastic,
congrats for finding and successfull breeding!

Hope to have the in my collection soon...

kind regards, marcus
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Müh ·
Posted: February 05, 2010 01:41 pm
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Thanks a lot everybody biggrin.gif

And sorry for the delay

Imanol: That is mostly a guess based on looks and location, there are no Acanthoscurria species in this part of the country, there are a lot of Vitalius. Anyway, that is just a tentative ID.

Mikhail: I will post this pic this weekend ok? wink.gif

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Imanol
Posted: February 05, 2010 10:35 pm
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QUOTE (Müh · @ February 05, 2010 01:41 pm)
Thanks a lot everybody biggrin.gif

And sorry for the delay

Imanol: That is mostly a guess based on looks and location, there are no Acanthoscurria species in this part of the country, there are a lot of Vitalius. Anyway, that is just a tentative ID.



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Thank you so much Müh wink.gif

.....I just said to take one example Acanthoscurria biggrin.gif





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Chris Hamilton
Posted: February 06, 2010 12:47 am
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So, I don't want to be a A-hole...but I'm really curious how you got those out of Brazil, seeing that you're not going to get an export permit for them. Though maybe I'm wrong in assuming that, based on your screen name, that you don't live in Brasil...

Beautiful spider, by the way.

***just pointing out that :*#£" like smuggling organisms out of countries that don't allow it really f'n hurt responsible biologists that just so happen to work with organisms that are popular for the hobby trade. It is hard as hell to get research permits, not to mention export permits, for working in countries like Brazil and India. Food for thought...

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Posted: February 06, 2010 12:19 pm
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QUOTE (Chris Hamilton @ February 06, 2010 12:47 am)
So, I don't want to be a A-hole...but I'm really curious how you got those out of Brazil, seeing that you're not going to get an export permit for them. Though maybe I'm wrong in assuming that, based on your screen name, that you don't live in Brasil...

Beautiful spider, by the way.

***just pointing out that swear smilie.gif like smuggling organisms out of countries that don't allow it really f'n hurt responsible biologists that just so happen to work with organisms that are popular for the hobby trade. It is hard as hell to get research permits, not to mention export permits, for working in countries like Brazil and India. Food for thought...

Chris

No one will acknowledge that I think Chris, but it is a good question and the only answer I can think of is "we have no lacey act" wink.gif but you are right it can only make things worse in the long run for both researchers and those trying to get legal C/B exports going in closed to W/C exports as Steve has done, but im not one to judge others iv got some wise men to follow..

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Eric Reynolds
Posted: February 08, 2010 07:48 pm
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QUOTE (Chris Hamilton @ February 05, 2010 06:47 pm)
So, I don't want to be a A-hole...but I'm really curious how you got those out of Brazil, seeing that you're not going to get an export permit for them. Though maybe I'm wrong in assuming that, based on your screen name, that you don't live in Brasil...

Beautiful spider, by the way.

***just pointing out that swear smilie.gif like smuggling organisms out of countries that don't allow it really f'n hurt responsible biologists that just so happen to work with organisms that are popular for the hobby trade. It is hard as hell to get research permits, not to mention export permits, for working in countries like Brazil and India. Food for thought...

Chris

No comment other than I think it's funny that Chris has an Iridopelma as his avatar earstoung.gif

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Posted: February 08, 2010 10:39 pm
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Chris Hamilton
Posted: February 13, 2010 04:36 pm
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QUOTE (Eric Reynolds @ February 08, 2010 02:48 pm)
[QUOTE=Chris Hamilton,February 05, 2010 06:47 pm] So, I don't want
No comment other than I think it's funny that Chris has an Iridopelma as his avatar earstoung.gif

Eric

Yep...and that was before I have learned what I have about how this is causing problems. I would not do it now. We all make mistakes in our lives. You can learn and grow, hence my message to others.


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jmverdez
Posted: February 14, 2010 10:28 am
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Hi

Muh, you write it should be a Vitalius, why not a Lasiodora

Very best regards

Eric, have you received my personal message? because no reply

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Martin H.
Posted: April 11, 2011 06:41 am
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Hi,

have a look at this paper:
  • BERTANI, R. & R. H. NAGAHAMA, C. S. FUKUSHIMA (2011): Revalidation of Pterinopelma Pocock 1901 with description of a new
    species and the female of Pterinopelma vitiosum (Keyserling 1891) (Araneae: Theraphosidae: Theraphosinae). Zootaxa 2814: 1-18.

    Abstract
    We revalidate the theraphosid genus Pterinopelma Pocock 1901, describe the female of Pterinopelma vitiosum for first time and Pterinopelma
    sazimai sp. nov. from Brazil. These two species were included in a matrix with 35 characters and 32 taxa and
    were analyzed both with all characters having same weight and with implied weights. Searches considering all characters
    non-additive or some additive were also carried out. The preferred tree, obtained with implied weights, concavity 6 and
    all characters non-additive shows that Pterinopelma is a monophyletic genus sister to the clade Lasiodora (Vitalius +
    Nhandu). The presence of denticles on the prolateral inferior male palpal bulb keel is a synapomorphy of the genus.

...could be the new Pterinopelma sazimai sp. nov.

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Sebastian S.
Posted: July 10, 2011 06:45 pm
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Hi, anyone have this paper ? . I will be grateful.

shawn-6@wp.pl

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